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	<title>Comments on: Growing Pains for b5media</title>
	<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/</link>
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		<title>By: ReveNews - Jim Kukral</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>ReveNews - Jim Kukral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2005 04:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-96</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Who Told The Message Board Trolls About Blogs?&lt;/strong&gt;

There's a scary thing happening these days in the professional blogging world. It seems that the message board trolls, you know, the ones who have spent years yelling like jerks on message boards all over the Internet, have figured out that they can b...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Who Told The Message Board Trolls About Blogs?</strong></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a scary thing happening these days in the professional blogging world. It seems that the message board trolls, you know, the ones who have spent years yelling like jerks on message boards all over the Internet, have figured out that they can b&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Home Office Voice - Home Business on the Web</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Home Office Voice - Home Business on the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-86</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why I Stopped &#8220;Watching&#8221; Blog Networks&lt;/strong&gt;

	A Word of Warning: this post is written late on a Wednesday night after I have come home fully loaded from a night going deaf watching a Motley Crue concert - Yup, the angst of adolesence was soothed by an obsession with the Crue    &#8230; so forgive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why I Stopped &#8220;Watching&#8221; Blog Networks</strong></p>
<p>	A Word of Warning: this post is written late on a Wednesday night after I have come home fully loaded from a night going deaf watching a Motley Crue concert - Yup, the angst of adolesence was soothed by an obsession with the Crue    &#8230; so forgive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 13:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-85</guid>
		<description>Abe: It'd take more than a single server to get uptime to 100%. It'd take hundreds of thousands of dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abe: It&#8217;d take more than a single server to get uptime to 100%. It&#8217;d take hundreds of thousands of dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 06:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-84</guid>
		<description>Both parties have their point but as a start-up company and being funded by high-income bloggers like Darren, I would have expected that some considerable amount of capital has been infused into b5media to be able to get another $299 server from ThePlanet.

If the network owners don't want to chip in a few hundred bucks just to get that 100% uptime, then it's also an issue of trust. A downtime of 0.5% is still about 3.5 hours a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both parties have their point but as a start-up company and being funded by high-income bloggers like Darren, I would have expected that some considerable amount of capital has been infused into b5media to be able to get another $299 server from ThePlanet.</p>
<p>If the network owners don&#8217;t want to chip in a few hundred bucks just to get that 100% uptime, then it&#8217;s also an issue of trust. A downtime of 0.5% is still about 3.5 hours a month.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; b5media comes under fire The Blog Herald: more blog news more often</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; b5media comes under fire The Blog Herald: more blog news more often</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 03:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-83</guid>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 6th, 2005 and is filed under Corporate. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently notallowed. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sigers</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sigers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 02:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-82</guid>
		<description>Robb,

Sorry to post this off-topic, but I see no way to contact you on this page.

Can we ask you to add us to you list of blog networks ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robb,</p>
<p>Sorry to post this off-topic, but I see no way to contact you on this page.</p>
<p>Can we ask you to add us to you list of blog networks ?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-81</guid>
		<description>Darren's response is pretty succint. It wasn't a matter of "either / or", it was a matter of timing. First bloggers, then the server.

The post was really just acknowledging there is an issue (like anybody didn't know) and saying we're working on it, and quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darren&#8217;s response is pretty succint. It wasn&#8217;t a matter of &#8220;either / or&#8221;, it was a matter of timing. First bloggers, then the server.</p>
<p>The post was really just acknowledging there is an issue (like anybody didn&#8217;t know) and saying we&#8217;re working on it, and quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-80</guid>
		<description>I wonder if perhaps people have taken Jeremy's words a little extremely.

Our downtime this month has been around half a percent. We are approaching capacity in our busiest times. Of course half a percent is more downtime than we want to have and we'll work to decrease it further - but it's not like we're constantly down.

We're not at a stage where we're having serious conversations about 'do we pay our bloggers or do we upgrade the server' - the way it's being reported sounds like we're in dire straights. We will always pay our bloggers because the system we have in place ensures that what they get paid is in proportion to the income coming in.

The conversations we have are more like - 'lets get our bloggers paid up and then when we see what's left or what we need to find from our own pockets we'll buy a new server'. It's more about timing and cash flow than anything else.

Jeremy reported the downtime issue because part of b5's journey is to share what we're learning along the way - we do this because we believe that blogging is about sharing knowledge and we hope in doing so we and other learn more about starting a blog network. The problem with doing this is that everytime we do share what we're learning and the experiences that we have - we get swooped upon by others wanting to point out the insufficiencies we have (which we're pretty open about anyway). While we want to be transparent and open about what we're learning I have to say that recent experience makes me wonder what the point is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if perhaps people have taken Jeremy&#8217;s words a little extremely.</p>
<p>Our downtime this month has been around half a percent. We are approaching capacity in our busiest times. Of course half a percent is more downtime than we want to have and we&#8217;ll work to decrease it further - but it&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re constantly down.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not at a stage where we&#8217;re having serious conversations about &#8216;do we pay our bloggers or do we upgrade the server&#8217; - the way it&#8217;s being reported sounds like we&#8217;re in dire straights. We will always pay our bloggers because the system we have in place ensures that what they get paid is in proportion to the income coming in.</p>
<p>The conversations we have are more like - &#8216;lets get our bloggers paid up and then when we see what&#8217;s left or what we need to find from our own pockets we&#8217;ll buy a new server&#8217;. It&#8217;s more about timing and cash flow than anything else.</p>
<p>Jeremy reported the downtime issue because part of b5&#8217;s journey is to share what we&#8217;re learning along the way - we do this because we believe that blogging is about sharing knowledge and we hope in doing so we and other learn more about starting a blog network. The problem with doing this is that everytime we do share what we&#8217;re learning and the experiences that we have - we get swooped upon by others wanting to point out the insufficiencies we have (which we&#8217;re pretty open about anyway). While we want to be transparent and open about what we&#8217;re learning I have to say that recent experience makes me wonder what the point is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ensight - Jeremy Wright&#8217;s Personal Blog &#187; The Irony is Thick</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Ensight - Jeremy Wright&#8217;s Personal Blog &#187; The Irony is Thick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 01:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-79</guid>
		<description>[...] Jack of All Blogs Blog Network Watch.net WadBlog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Jack of All Blogs Blog Network Watch.net WadBlog [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: www.Wadblog.com</title>
		<link>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>www.Wadblog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.blognetworkwatch.net/2005/12/06/growing-pains-for-b5media/#comment-78</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Building a Network, Can You Handle It?&lt;/strong&gt;

 Today is a good day for learning from others mistakes. Seems b5 media have some problems with keeping their network up. Now as I mentioned the other day when choosing a host  you can't afford downtime, downtime hurts business, in this case for B5 mai...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Building a Network, Can You Handle It?</strong></p>
<p> Today is a good day for learning from others mistakes. Seems b5 media have some problems with keeping their network up. Now as I mentioned the other day when choosing a host  you can&#8217;t afford downtime, downtime hurts business, in this case for B5 mai&#8230;</p>
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